For my first thread on the site, Can I ask the more technically gifted amongst you to explain what damage, if any, this new fuel that is to be wheeled out later this, will have on my '05 ST3? From what little notice that Ducati have published, it appears that only the newer bikes which will be unaffected by the additional 5% of Ethanol. I remember, that when unleaded was brought in, garages still had the Pool petrol pumps alongside the new ones and they lasted for quite a few years, so I assume this will be the case when the E10 fuel is brought in. But any advice or thoughts on the subject should make a good read for those of us who are interested.
Dave Hughes
Liverpool
Not heard of this change, when’s this stuff coming in?
Kevin.
See Motor Cycle News. 27th March, page 8 for a report.
groups.tr-register.co.uk/wes … pdate.html
I hope you can open this link.
This is a very informative article written for the Triumph [TR] sport car Forum and it is easy to read in a well laid out style and it is FRIGHTENING. E10 will affect nearly every bike, except the very modern ones and once in our tanks it will destroy ,anything in rubber, brass, cause steel to rust. It is a KILLER.
Dave
no option was given when the 5% ethanol was wheeled out, suspect none will be given with this new blend
given that there is less petrol will they drop the fuel tax accordingly? I suspect not
given that world wide there is a shortage of food generation and food prices are rising where is all this ethanol going to come from? probably from diverting resources from food generation
entire ideology of ethanol in fuel seems warped and will result in many older vehicles being forced off the road and will push up food prices due to less resources being available to produce food
There was a big article about it in BMF magazine, I do not think it will affect your bike but older models, if you don’t get the article let me know and I can copy and post it to you.
Martyn, please publish the article on this Forum. I expected there would not be a lot of interest in E10 here, although I’m surprised that Ducati have not given us a list of bikes, THAT WILL be affected, but I am also a member of the CX-GL MCC Forum and this subject, which is close to their hearts, has had 200 visits in just a few days. There has been one contribution from a guy in USA, whose little 50cc was destroyed by just one tank of the stuff. It will destroy bikes with carburettors, that much is certain. The guy in the States went on to say, that gas stations did run the 5% pumps, but you paid more. I’m hoping and praying that our’s do the same.
Thanks for the input Guys
Dave Hughes
Liverpool
It is too big to scan and post it on here, it does say both will be available for years to come but your option will be the normal which will be that and then super unleaded.
Why?
Many of the iconic Ducatis have carburettas. All of the singles, all of the bevel gear bikes, most of the 2 valve bikes including Supersports and Monsters.
In the USA there is a major problem with Moinsters with plastic tanks
The author says ‘I have seen a couple of reports saying that E10 is ‘definitely not’ going to be introduced in 2013.
As indicated, UK targets for biofuel uptake are set at 5% for the 2013/14 financial year as an average across all petrol and diesel supplied. It is therefore correct to say that there is no necessity for suppliers to introduce E10.
I paste this paragraph from a page I found on the ridersite.com which goes someway to cheer me up. I reckon it’s high time that the Transport Secretary makes a definate statement on this confusing state of affairs.
Dave Hughes
Liverpool
Hi Yosser,
“O” rings, fuel lines etc can be replaced and carbs rejetted, plastic/GPR/carbon fibre fuel tanks will need to lined in some way, to overcome the poor side effects of E10 in the fuel.
In the USA they’ve had a much higher level of ethanol in the fuel for some time. On the 851/888 Forum that I frequent the American member have had problems with the internal fuel lines on their bikes, the owners with the very rare Carbon Corse fuel tanks have also had problems.
These have been overcome by fitting modern submersible fuel lines and lining the tanks with products like Caswell, an epoxy based/ethanol proof lining.
Both of these products are available in the UK.
Steve R